DjVortex wrote:It's quite common that when scientists publish results that some people don't like (or are later deluded by others into not liking them), they have this strange notion that they can tell why the science is wrong, without even understanding the science in question nor having any kind of experience or background on it. This is really common with all kinds of denialists and conspiracy theorists. Take this guy, for example:
This guy has probably zero knowledge and experience on climatology, or even physics. He studied history and law in college, and later became a politician. He probably has read no actual papers published on the subject of climate change, has no idea how the climate change and its effects are measured, nor how the process of peer reviewing and publication of the results is performed, yet he seems quite confident that he can tell others why the science of climatology is wrong.
It really is true that confidence on one's statements is inversely proportional to how much of an expert on the subject one is.
What I wonder is why people are so eager to believe a few dissenters rather than the scientific community. Why is there such a huge mistrust and hostility towards science? The few dissenters always get people to listen to them, for no obvious good reason, other than that they are dissenting with the "official" explanations. It seems that's enough to get people's attention and agreement. (Of course it helps if the dissenter is charismatic and good at spouting BS convincingly.)
Apate wrote:Actually every theist I know has no problem with science
DjVortex wrote:But yes, the majority of Christians (and other theists) do not have a problem with science. It's just that the minority who does tends to be the most vocal bunch, the ones who make engaging speeches to big audiences, who appear on TV and who make YouTube videos watched by hundreds of thousands of people.
Lausten wrote:DjVortex wrote:But yes, the majority of Christians (and other theists) do not have a problem with science. It's just that the minority who does tends to be the most vocal bunch, the ones who make engaging speeches to big audiences, who appear on TV and who make YouTube videos watched by hundreds of thousands of people.
I agree that minority is a problem, but the majority, the less vocal, might be worse. The ones who have regular jobs and influence over their children and believe there is a consciousness behind the physical world. They buy books like "The Secret" and watch Oprah. They tell their friends that they are praying for them. Seems harmless, but what actions are they not taking to fix this messed up world because they think it will all magically work out?
I believe there is a great silent majority of atheists / agnostics who want to come out but when they hear some of the celebrity atheists using words such as fools and delusional they just cringe and step back into the shadows .
I don't know goes alot further than I know there is no god because science says so .
Apate wrote:God for me is an insult when used as an answer for the unknown aspects of our existence same as when people assume that nothing existed before the Big Bang or that there was a singularity that contained everything that now exists .
Science in partnership with atheism is no different than science in partnership with religion , it can only lead to intolerance and crimes against humanity as proven by our past .
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